Historic Jamestown History and Travel Tips

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Welcome to Talk With History.

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I'm your host, Scott, here with my wife and historian, Jen.

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Now, Jen, we're recording this a couple of weeks before it's going to

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be released, but a couple of days ago, it looks like we just got a new review.

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We got a five, five star review from someone, and we were talking about

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this just before we hit record.

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Cause I, I've said multiple times, Hey, leave me a five star review,

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whether it be positive or negative, I'll take a five star review.

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And someone left us a negative five star review.

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And so I'm going to read it here real quick.

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I won't, their, their handle is someone61450.

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You can go and see it if you're curious and you can look it up in Apple Podcasts.

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But the, it's five stars, so thank you for that.

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The title is Misstep.

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So I guess this person had listened to our Loretta Lynn podcast episode.

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It says, Loretta Lynn builds hurricane mills, not hills.

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So this person commented, The background music is very overwhelming

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and not relatable at all.

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It mentions something about a trumpet, which I'm, I'm kind of

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confused because we use a lot of bluegrass music in, in that episode.

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So I'll go back and re listen to it.

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You do a fabulous job with the history and a five star podcast, but this

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episode falls very, very short for me.

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There's a lot more Loretta that is missed and having just

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gotten home from this area.

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I'm unsure if you can do the Hatfield McCoy's justice, if

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this is all you produced for her.

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So that's, I'll always take all sorts of feedback, you and I were just joking

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that you get all sorts of feedback when it comes to the YouTube channel

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a lot, so you're getting used to it.

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But this person kind of brings up a good point that we didn't, not a good

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point, but a point that we didn't go deep into the Loretta Lynn history.

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and I want to stress.

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If that's what you're looking for, yeah, that's a, that's a fair review

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because we don't go into Loretta Lynn history, we, and we won't talk

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specifically about Loretta Lynn's career.

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This podcast is a location, historical location podcast.

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So we're going to go into the history of the location.

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So we talk about Loretta Lynn's birthplace, we talk about her in

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where she grew up and then getting married and then leaving the area.

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So we really don't go much into her career because her career really

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wasn't started anywhere in the area where her with her cabin is.

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And he's right.

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She does build a ranch in Tennessee.

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And I must have mispronounced it.

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But that the ranch Hurricane Mills is, the ranch she builds in Tennessee.

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And that's the longevity of her career.

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Yes.

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the things, too, is the, it's not that we haven't gone into depth

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on certain people, but it's oftentimes when we go to a location, like a

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museum, John Wayne Museum, Abraham Lincoln Museum, that is a location

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fully about the history of that person.

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And so that's, those are the times when we typically will dive deep into a person's

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Sure.

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And we, we center it more on the artifacts in the museum.

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So we'll talk about their life with that artifact.

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Or if I'm going to talk about Washington crossing, I'm going to talk about

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George Washington at the time in 1776.

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So I'm not going to talk, I never will talk entirely about one person's life.

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I will not talk about George Washington's entire life, but if I'm at a location,

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Mount Vernon, I'll talk about the time span he spent at that location.

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And probably some lead up and some after, which is what we did for Loretta Lynn.

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And so I hope he gives us another listen.

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Please listen to Hatfield's McCoys.

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We are going to go location by location that we visited and some

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that we weren't able to make it out to because they were pretty far out.

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But we're going to give it.

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The location by location history as we go.

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And that's really what this podcast

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Yeah, and again, I just appreciate the someone reaching out via

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a, a podcast review that to me that's more valuable than anything else.

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And, and for whoever someone 61450 is I really do appreciate it, whether

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it's, and I'll go back and listen to the, to the episode again to kind

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of listen to the music because I can adjust that stuff after the fact.

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That's the one nice thing about podcasting.

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So positive or negative, it's a five star review.

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It's valuable, valuable feedback and we really do appreciate

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Yes, thank you.

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Situated along the banks of the James River in Virginia,

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Jamestown holds a special place in the tapestry of American history.

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Established in 1607, it was the first permanent English settlement in the New

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World, but visiting this living museum requires more than just a curious spirit.

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It demands a strategic approach and a keen eye for historical detail.

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So grab your tricorn hats and Buckle up your shoes as we embark on a virtual

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journey to Jamestown, uncovering the tips and tricks that will enhance

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your visit and transport you back to the dawn of American history.

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So, Jen, the title of this podcast episode is pretty obvious, so

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let's talk about Jamestown.

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So Jamestown It's part of that historic triangle here in Virginia,

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and so if you're here visiting Colonial Williamsburg or Yorktown,

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you're going to want to hit Jamestown.

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It's part of that nice little triangle.

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They have a Colonial Parkway that connects all three, makes it easy

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for you to drive to, and it is a big part of American history.

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So you're getting the very first permanent English settlement at Jamestown.

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And then of course you're going to get Yorktown for the American

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revolution and you're going to get Colonial Williamsburg that kind of

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is the gap between the two of them.

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So you're getting a nice part of the birth of America in this historic

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Yeah, and it really was one of the first places because we

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live, less than an hour away that we ventured out to when we were, when

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we moved here a couple years ago.

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Yeah.

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So we did not know what.

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You're visiting when you're visiting Jamestown and when you put things into

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the GPS Jamestown Two locations pop up and we thought they were the same thing.

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So Jamestown Settlement will pop up and Jamestown Visitor Center will pop up.

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And a lot like Williamsburg, which we had been to before, we thought,

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Oh, the Visitor Center must just be the place you go visit before

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you go to the Jamestown Settlement.

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So we thought they were in conjunction with each other and they are to

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some extent, but they are really.

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two entirely separate locations and you do want to go to both.

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and they actually even and we'll talk about this more later that we found

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out because we just visited last weekend they actually just kind of even separate.

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I'll say separated just a smidge more.

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So there's actually a little bit more.

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It's brand new as of 2024.

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Brand, brand new things that you need to consider when you are visiting because

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it's different even than the, the first time we went, about three years ago.

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Yes.

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So the national park service, and we'll get more into the

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used to run the visitor center.

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And so if you had a national park pass, just like going to Yorktown,

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you could get in for free and you could walk into the whole.

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preservation site, the archeological site, the original site of the

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Jamestown colony, the James Fort.

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Now it has been separated into a Preservation Virginia group that has

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basically circumvented the whole original site because they are actively digging.

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And because they are actively digging, they are asked, they

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require an entrance fee, which is pretty steep for family five.

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And even though they, they really push that their nonprofit, which I 100 percent

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agree that they probably are, they do need those funds to fund their dig.

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So we'll, we'll go back into that site a little bit more.

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If we were going to tell someone, recommend to someone,

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hey, where should we start?

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Well, let's, let's start there as far as recommending.

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If, if you're listening to this and you want some tips and tricks to

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visit, where should someone start?

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Definitely, if you only have one day and four hours or three

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hours, go to the Jamestown settlement.

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That is the museum, it is the recreation, it is the place where you can walk through

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what that original colony look like, and what the original Powhatan village

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looked like, the original first peoples that the English colonists encountered.

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And it has a recreation of all three ships that came over.

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Plus, it's an amazing museum with artifacts and tells a great story.

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really good.

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It's incredibly kid friendly.

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There's lots of stuff both indoors and outdoors and we'll talk

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a little bit more about that.

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So when you're putting it into the, your maps app of choice, you're putting in

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Jamestown Settlement.

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Settlement.

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And that's the museum.

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That's the museum.

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So the Jamestown Settlement is the museum you want to go

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Yes.

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So in 1957, it was the 350th anniversary of Jamestown.

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Think, they landed in 1607.

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So they decided to put all this money into building a site to educate people on what

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Jamestown was and, and what it looked like and what those original ships look like.

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So that's when they built everything, the museum.

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The recreation of the James Fort, the recreation of the Powhatan Village,

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and the recreation of the three ships.

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And so for that anniversary, Vice President Nixon was

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there, Queen Elizabeth II came.

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That was a big deal.

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And, they, the fort is amazing.

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If you ever saw the Jamestown miniseries that they had made for

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a while, it looks just like that.

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It recreates what that fort looked like from 1607 to 1614.

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So just a few outbuildings that they had, the church, that recreation of

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that church there is the second church from 1610 that Pocahontas is married in.

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Oh, so that's, that's the recreation

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the recreation of that church that we stand in

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in the other

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at the other spot, the actual archaeological site.

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We stood there, we have a picture of us standing there, but that's a

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recreation of where they were married.

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So you can see what it would have looked like.

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Yeah, and I will say at the Jamestown Settlement, again, this

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is the, where we are recommending you would start if you, if you

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had to pick one, pick this one.

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Going into the museum itself, it is, it is full blown, almost,

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Disney level type experience.

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It's, it's very, very good.

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Very worth going.

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And it walks you through the way the land has changed since being settled.

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So from 1607 on how it's kind of trend, the colony has transformed

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and building and the the different types of crops planted and what

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has happened to the people there.

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And it had, they have interactive games you can play with your children,

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which I really appreciated with the kids, kind of kept them involved.

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And then you can walk through recreations of what a street in London looked like

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that the, the, the colonists were leaving or What the houses look like that they had

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built there, what a typical house would look like for a plant or a farmer, what a

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typical house would look like for a power 10 first people, what a typical house

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would look like for an enslaved person.

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So you got to see those, those three different home styles

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and then lots of artifacts.

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And that was really nice to see how they lived and what was going on because

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this is the first permanent settlement.

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So this is 1607.

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We've done Roanoke, which is 1585.

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So you kind of think 20.

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20 plus years later, they're trying this again.

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They keep coming over and it's just not

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Yeah, they're like, there's land there, we're gonna figure this out.

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And this is the time it actually works, but they actually

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go through another starving period.

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And we'll, we'll talk more into that where they almost don't make it again,

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but this time it actually sticks.

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And what is really cool is they have the three ships.

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So when the ships came over, there was three with, they had the

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hundred and four colonists, all men.

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came over on the Susan Constant, the Godspeed and the Discovery.

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And they've recreated those three ships so you can see them.

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You can walk on

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You can walk on board and they're fantastic.

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I mean, our kids, again, they didn't really remember too

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much from their first visit.

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So they wanted to kind of go do all the stuff again.

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And we tend to, we've each time we've gone, we've kind of

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gone, it's a little bit cooler.

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But even, even in the wintertime, it's still nice enough that for

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the most part, you can go out there and the ships are great.

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They're good size or recreated.

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Well, I think the one guy was telling us like, they still kind of take them out

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They still sail them.

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They're still seaworthy and they, they recreate what it

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was like to sail in the 1600s.

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So they're going to leave London 20th, 1606.

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And then they take the Southern route.

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Through the West Indies, basically all, the Virgin Islands, the, what

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we know today is the Caribbean.

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And then they come up the Southern part of America and then settle in Virginia.

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I remember the Spanish are in Florida.

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So they, that's kind of why that route is kind of the favored route, plus

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with sea currents and things like that.

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And they're going to pick the, the area to Jamestown.

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settlement May 14th, 1607.

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So it takes about five months.

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And so you can imagine these three ships, the, the Susan Constance, the big

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one, it has about 70 colonists on it.

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And John Smith is on that ship.

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And, and it's not as big as you would think.

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not, when you think of 70 men on there, I mean, the

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captain's Christopher Newport.

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So when you think of Newport News,

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don't remember how long it was, but it wasn't like, it wasn't a very long

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No, it's not.

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And they're,

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Like it's, it's, I guarantee you, if you're listening to this podcast,

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picture a ship in your mind that you think they sailed across the ocean.

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It's probably 20 feet shorter than that.

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yeah, it was, the keel length is 55

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Yeah, so that that is not long at all like when I was in college I did kind

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of some summer training stuff that the Navy kind of had us do and so I I I picked

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You know being on a 44 foot sailboat and I was on there with I think eight

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people and it was still pretty cramped

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They say from bow to stern, it's 116 feet.

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Yeah, now they do have it's It's much kind of deeper and more

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much more built up than you know The sailboat that I was kind of hanging

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out on for a couple weeks when I was in college But 70 men and it's men only

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only

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And I think the women came over how much later

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they had servant women come over relatively quickly after.

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so it wasn't like multiple years

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women came over.

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Pretty much right away, probably within the next year, but they didn't

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have, they didn't, they weren't coming over in a capacity to be wives.

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They didn't have wives come for another five years where they

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actually sent women over to marry the colonists and be their wives.

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So they came over as wives like pick them pick one and let's start

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to have kids like so they were settling they're settling the area.

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So they had women come over as servants, right and and Maids and

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cooks and things of that nature.

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So you do get women there in that capacity, but not You know not a lot of

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yeah, yeah.

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Again, the ships are great.

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That's one of those outdoor things.

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Now, to get to the ships,

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So you go to the museum and you do have to pay.

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It is, it is a museum that you, you pay to get in and for family five, it wasn't too

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I think it's 50

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Yes.

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And then again, it's walking you through the years and it's very interactive.

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Then you walk outside and you're going to walk through the Powhatan village first.

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So the first people they encounter.

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And usually there's a couple reenactors in there and you get to see their

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huts, how they built their huts with the wood that they would bend

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And these, these are full scale.

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scale.

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And then they show you how they weave together the cat tail

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spines and made kind of like.

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And the mats laid over the wood and that's how they made their housing.

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And I mean, they have people kind of in kind of a full Native American

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regalia sitting by a fire and they're either cooking something or they're making

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something like they're, and you can go up there and kind of interact with them just

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like you would at Colonial Williamsburg.

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Ask them questions.

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And how, what did you eat?

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What did you do?

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What, what jobs did you have?

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And they have a big kind of cooking center where the big fire would be in

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the middle and they have kind of store places where they had like goods stored.

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And they even had a game section where the kids and I could throw basically

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arrows without a point on it through hoops and from there you walk to Fort James

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or James Fort and the James Fort again is from 1607 to 1614 so that early fort

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If you're listening, picture, think you're reading a history

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book in high school and picture the fort with kind of wooden fence all

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around it and the buildings inside.

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That's what it looks

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yeah and for protection and then Just a couple buildings, right?

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You have the church, you have a storehouse, and you have a baker,

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a big bakery, a big blacksmith location, and then basically it's

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just housing, lodging for people, but again, reenactors and reenactors.

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They have animals out there, chickens.

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My kids were very excited about the chickens.

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And they show you how they cooked and how they, what they ate.

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And you can walk into the church and see what that would have looked like.

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was really

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It actually was really cool.

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And you get to see how they stored their goods and what

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kind of goods that they have.

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So that's really neat.

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And then from that path, it leads you to the three ships because

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it leads you to the waterway and they're, they're pulled off.

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They're pulled out off beside the pier.

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Yeah.

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Again, very family friendly.

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You know visit kind of morning or afternoon you could do a full day.

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I think it's more of a half day type thing

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That's what I think.

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Honestly, really no matter what time of year unless it's like snowing

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or raining but indoor activities outdoor activities The kids love the whole

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Powhatan area because these are full sized It's kind of huts that they've,

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they've built and so you can go in, it's like a little fort and then you go on the

Scott: 00:19:53

ships and the kids are climbing around.

Scott: 00:19:55

So it's a really great area.

Scott: 00:19:57

Highly recommend visiting this place first.

Jenn: 00:20:00

and they have a great food court.

Jenn: 00:20:02

So for the kids to grab a snack and have a really great gift shop.

Jenn: 00:20:06

So two cool things that kind of gifts that you wouldn't find everywhere else

Jenn: 00:20:11

and looking for very nautical themes or early American history kind of themes.

Jenn: 00:20:17

It was very cool.

Scott: 00:20:23

Now from, from here we can go to the actual site.

Scott: 00:20:29

We would say if you're going to do a full day in the Greater Jamestown

Scott: 00:20:32

area, you go to the settlement where the museum is kind of first, and then

Scott: 00:20:38

you're going to go to the visitor center.

Scott: 00:20:39

And this visitor center, this is the one this is the National Park one.

Jenn: 00:20:43

Yes, this is historic.

Jenn: 00:20:44

Jamestown visitor center.

Jenn: 00:20:46

And the reason why it's not as much to see there, they do have a museum.

Jenn: 00:20:52

It's not as large as the Jamestown settlement.

Jenn: 00:20:55

It's not It's kid friendly, interactive, it's more traditional, but it's

Jenn: 00:21:00

cool to see, to be in the actual space of the recreations you just

Scott: 00:21:05

Yeah, they've got a lot more actual artifacts

Jenn: 00:21:07

Yes, and they're, they're finding the real artifacts to tell the story.

Jenn: 00:21:12

And so, It's not as fun for the kids, although they have the cool statue of John

Jenn: 00:21:17

Smith there and it is right on the water.

Jenn: 00:21:19

So that's kind of neat.

Jenn: 00:21:19

But that is the actual site run by the National Park Service.

Jenn: 00:21:23

So if you were looking for your junior ranger badge like Madison or your stamps

Jenn: 00:21:26

for your stamp book, those are all there.

Jenn: 00:21:28

They also have a gift shop too.

Jenn: 00:21:29

It's not as, not as many items in there as the one at Jamestown

Jenn: 00:21:33

settlement, but still cool.

Jenn: 00:21:36

I definitely.

Jenn: 00:21:37

If you just want to go to the National Park Service side, which is visiting

Jenn: 00:21:44

that visitor center and seeing Jamestown later years, which is like

Jenn: 00:21:51

1700s on another side of the site,

Scott: 00:21:56

it Newtown.

Jenn: 00:21:58

you can visit that all for free.

Jenn: 00:21:59

With your national park pass or the small entrance

Scott: 00:22:03

Yeah, but the, but the,

Jenn: 00:22:04

but you're not seeing the

Scott: 00:22:05

seeing the actual location.

Scott: 00:22:07

So the actual location, it probably covers what Maybe a couple acres,

Scott: 00:22:11

and it's right on the water

Jenn: 00:22:13

It's right on the water and it's the actual site of the fort.

Jenn: 00:22:17

It's where they actually built that fort.

Jenn: 00:22:19

It's where they actually built that church.

Jenn: 00:22:21

It's if you want to actually stand where Pocahontas married John

Jenn: 00:22:25

Ralph, like that is the location.

Jenn: 00:22:27

If you,

Scott: 00:22:28

they have active digs going on there.

Scott: 00:22:29

So if you've got kids that are really into that, it would be, that would

Scott: 00:22:34

be one thing that's pretty cool.

Jenn: 00:22:41

it was designated at the historic site in 1940.

Jenn: 00:22:44

So again, these things are relatively mid 1900s, where they really

Jenn: 00:22:49

started to take notice and, and want to preserve their history.

Jenn: 00:22:54

They have had, active digs.

Jenn: 00:22:56

They have an active dig now.

Jenn: 00:22:57

As I said before, this is the first permanent English

Jenn: 00:22:59

settlement, May 13th, 1607.

Jenn: 00:23:02

From 1609 to 1610, they had this lack of food and supply, so

Jenn: 00:23:06

they call it the starving time.

Jenn: 00:23:09

And only 60 colonists survived the starving time.

Jenn: 00:23:12

And so what you find there is they have found the graveyards.

Jenn: 00:23:16

They have found where these bodies have been buried.

Jenn: 00:23:19

And in one of these archaeological digs, they found basically a trash chute.

Jenn: 00:23:24

And in that trash chute, they found bones.

Jenn: 00:23:26

And some of the bones were of a young girl, 14 year old girl, who they could

Jenn: 00:23:31

tell from the markings on her bones that her body had been used to, for as food.

Jenn: 00:23:40

It had been cut in a way with a knife or something that they could tell

Jenn: 00:23:44

that they were trying to preserve the flesh or the food of her body.

Jenn: 00:23:49

And so they were able, because they found her skull and her.

Jenn: 00:23:53

I think one of her leg bones.

Jenn: 00:23:54

They were able to facially reconstruct her face.

Jenn: 00:23:57

And so her, they call her Jane and her face is in the museum.

Jenn: 00:24:02

So there is a little walk through museum there.

Jenn: 00:24:05

And it's built over the state house, one of the original state houses there.

Jenn: 00:24:08

So you can look through the glass floor and see some of the.

Jenn: 00:24:13

dig that they had found there.

Jenn: 00:24:15

And so they have the recreation of Jane's face in there, along with the

Jenn: 00:24:19

bones that they found, along with other little artifacts and things

Jenn: 00:24:23

that were left behind, that they're able to piece together this story.

Jenn: 00:24:27

It's very interesting if you're into archaeology, if you're a historian,

Jenn: 00:24:31

if you want to see these actual artifacts from the first colonists.

Jenn: 00:24:37

The issue is it's just not as kid friendly and it's, that's a difficult

Jenn: 00:24:41

story to tell children if, they're not quite ready to hear stuff

Scott: 00:24:46

Yeah, I mean, I don't think we really got into it with our kids,

Scott: 00:24:49

they were kind of running around.

Scott: 00:24:50

It's close to the water.

Scott: 00:24:51

So there's some rocks there.

Scott: 00:24:52

And then there's the big John Smith statue that's right there kind of overlooking the

Jenn: 00:24:57

And that's pretty cool.

Jenn: 00:24:58

So there's a big statue of John Smith since he's first governor comes over.

Jenn: 00:25:02

It was put up in 1909.

Jenn: 00:25:04

There's a Pocahontas statue there too.

Jenn: 00:25:06

That was put up in 1922.

Jenn: 00:25:08

So again, these things are relatively newer.

Jenn: 00:25:11

And but it is neat.

Jenn: 00:25:13

You and I took a picture standing in the church where Pocahontas was married.

Jenn: 00:25:16

If when you're over at the Jamestown settlement standing in the recreation

Jenn: 00:25:20

of that church, that is the actual spot where that church was.

Jenn: 00:25:25

So it's neat to put the story together with the two locations

Jenn: 00:25:29

and to be like, this is where I just was in a recreation of it.

Jenn: 00:25:32

This is where it actually was.

Jenn: 00:25:34

How neat.

Jenn: 00:25:35

This is where those ships actually were.

Jenn: 00:25:37

This is where they actually touched ground.

Jenn: 00:25:39

And so.

Jenn: 00:25:40

That's a neat story because we all have heard the Pocahontas

Jenn: 00:25:43

story, the John Smith story.

Jenn: 00:25:45

And so to be able to put it all together and stand there and to, stand

Jenn: 00:25:49

in the place of giants of history, it's really, that's really cool.

Jenn: 00:25:53

So if you wanted to do both and, and kind of, again, marry that experience together,

Jenn: 00:25:59

that's kind of how the two locations work.

Scott: 00:26:02

Yeah.

Scott: 00:26:02

And I will say, if you want to do a full day.

Scott: 00:26:05

doing Jamestown.

Scott: 00:26:06

You can put both those together.

Scott: 00:26:08

You could, if you didn't want to pay kind of basically a second full fee to

Scott: 00:26:12

go see the actual archaeological site, you can go over to the New Town site and

Scott: 00:26:16

there is more stuff to do over there.

Scott: 00:26:17

We didn't do it on our most recent visit, but I was looking on some of

Scott: 00:26:20

the maps and it looked like there might be some more kind of interactive stuff

Scott: 00:26:23

for the kids in, in that New Town area.

Scott: 00:26:25

So there's, there's plenty to kind of make a full day of it.

Scott: 00:26:28

If, if you are interested in going over to the.

Scott: 00:26:30

The Jamestown Historic

Jenn: 00:26:31

Yeah.

Jenn: 00:26:32

And then the 400th anniversary happened in 2007 and President Bush came there

Jenn: 00:26:39

and Queen Elizabeth II visited again.

Scott: 00:26:41

Oh, that's

Jenn: 00:26:42

So it's kind of neat.

Jenn: 00:26:42

She got to see all the changes and things.

Jenn: 00:26:44

So it is again, if you want to see these important places of

Jenn: 00:26:49

American history, again, this is the first English settlement.

Jenn: 00:26:53

So not the first settlement of America from Europe, but the first

Jenn: 00:26:58

English settlement is Jamestown.

Scott: 00:27:00

It was very, very fun.

Scott: 00:27:02

Highly recommended, but do the, the settlement first and the visitor center

Scott: 00:27:07

second, if you really want to do that.

Scott: 00:27:16

From immersive exhibits to architectural marvels, we talked about some of

Scott: 00:27:22

the must see landmarks and hidden gems that make Jamestown a time

Scott: 00:27:27

capsule waiting to be explored.

Scott: 00:27:30

Whether you're a seasoned history buff or a first time visitor, this episode

Scott: 00:27:34

has you covered with Insider Insights that will make your experience truly

Scott: 00:27:38

unforgettable, at least we hope.

Scott: 00:27:41

So tighten your bonnet straps and prepare to navigate.

Scott: 00:27:44

and travel the sites of historic Jamestown.

Scott: 00:27:47

Avoid the crowds and capture that Instagram worthy shot.

Scott: 00:27:51

Consider this episode of Talk With History your personal guide to

Scott: 00:27:54

unlocking the past of Jamestown.

Scott: 00:27:57

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Scott: 00:27:59

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